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In my opinion so-called "trolls" are dangerous people becaouse it is nice for them to hurt other people. In my opinion they are ill people with complex who think that nobody will know who they are. Soon nobody will be anonymous on the internet. I think this is very good. You shouldn't listen to these people. I think that it is good idea not to discuss with trolls because it can end badly for everyone. I prefer to save my opinion to myself. You should remember that everyone can read your opinion for example your boss.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion so-called "trolls" are dangerous people becaouse it is nice for them to hurt other people. In my opinion they are ill people with complex who think that nobody will know who they are. Soon nobody will be anonymous on the internet. I think this is very good. You shouldn't listen to these people. I think that it is good idea not to discuss with trolls because it can end badly for everyone. I prefer to save my opinion to myself. You should remember that everyone can read your opinion for example your boss.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, "trolls" are people who are intricate, jealous and miserable. They think that writing such stupidity on the internet are anonymous and they think they can write what they want. In the real world, "trolls" are afraid to even speak to another person and express their opinion. Unfortunately, people like them are dangerous to young people because they read troll's speech and want to take an example from them.
I didn't see any trolls there in those videos. They were rather trolls victims, as trolling is about tricking someone into an argue. And that can be easily done with people who put their emotions in what they post online, people who are too serious about it.
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ReplyDeleteThe videos show people which use one of the human privelage which is freedom of speech. Some of the people opinios have been backed up by firm reasons and could be defended if needed. Some of the internet mesagess look like burst of anger aimed mainly to praticular person or group of presosns.
ReplyDeleteEverybody have their own opinion on subjects from the videos and we can agree or disagree wih them. All of the subjects can be disscused, but there is no universal answer to any of them. If the people were forbidden from sharing their point of view then we would end up with having the universal opinion on every single subject. Basically, we would allow certain perosons to make our opinion on our behalf.
I think that everybody should be allowed to express their opinions and feelings as well as other people should be allowed to oppose or agree with them. Like most subjects, it's just neverending discussion on which everybody are wrong and right at the same time.
Except presented people, video is brilliant. In my opinion the screen play based on contrasts is curious. I’m impressed. I’d like to be as much talented as directors. But if I think about each person I feel aversion. They present very extreme personalities. It’s really strange. I can’t believe if somebody can behave like this. At first glance, I felt a little bit confused but I think it’s very deep message for recipients. This people has some kind of psycho problem, but maybe they right? I’m not sure but if I know is that the internet is very powerful tool, where we can play different roles. What we can see at this video. I’m not a big fun of comments, especially comments, which offend someone beliefs. I like to write funny comments in my friend circle, where everybody enjoy it. Video is thought provoking.
ReplyDeleteThis video is really confusing. I don't think it shows so called "trolls", who likes to argue just for fun. I think people from this reportage definitely have some mental problems. They don't really harmonize with a normal society, as if they had pretension to the whole world. They write comments, very vulgar ones, but I don't really think they understand what it means. I think they need to express their infirmity and disability, by just shouting loud foolish phrases. I don't say, that these worlds doesn't mean anything to them, it's opposite. They really believe in what they writing and it's nothing wrong, because everyone have right to have his own opinion. But I still think, that their beliefs come out only because of their mental disability. Like in the tourette illness, people have compulsive behaviors, It's the same with the people from this video. They just need to act vulgar, to reduce their level of stress. I pity them very much and I think everyone in the internet should ignore such comments.
ReplyDeleteI am impressed that there are people for whom it is a pleasure to hurt others. I think that everybody should be allowed to express their opinions but there is some limit and it is also important how you express it. I think that it is good idea not to discuss with Internet trolls.
ReplyDeleteI tottaly agree with Jacek. Trolling should be a disease that should be treated. But sometimes the person who does it does not realize his consequences, because he does it for fun. What if some people think the same? This can lead to various nasty events. Interestingly, in real life such people do not turn to others in this way. It may well be, because it could lead to violence. Luckily it starts to (slowly) be punished ;)
ReplyDeleteI respect the freedom of speech, but there are boundaries, and should not be offended by others. They are been overindulged and encouraged to express themselves if they are anonymous
ReplyDeleteI don’t really understand why for some people it’s pleasure to hurt somebody. We have a freedom of speech so everyone is allowed to express their opinion but we should have some limit to do not hurt others. The best we can do it’s not discuss with „internet trolls”.
ReplyDeleteAlmost everyone of us have some topics which can easily make him angry.
ReplyDeleteFor most of presented people it's a politics and immigration problem.
I'm not specially suprised that people are angry for their government or angry and sad due to stupid migration politics. These topics makes me angry too. But the only difference is that I can just think about it or even take a talk with friends. While these people just prefer to scream loud about their believes or fears. And Internet tools, like Twitter etc. are a great place to do that - due to wide audience.
I don't blame people for their believes.
But the other story is when they're just trolls or getting paid for this.
I think that nowadays people can post everything on the Internet because we have a freedom of speech. When we post something on Tweeter or Facebook it immediately reaches about many people, who can react on your post in many ways and opinions. People presented in this video are very different, I understand some of them, but some of them makes me anxious, because they are very weird and maybe have problem with their personalities. People do such things to makes themselves happier, they rebuild their self-confidence at cost of offending others, which I completely don’t understand and do not support. What makes me sad that those people are very unhappy, they don’t enjoy their life. Instead of doing something that will change their situation, they prefer to stuck where they are and offend others.
ReplyDeleteThis video is very interesting. It’s presented people from whole the World and we see what people they are behind their comment. These people are various. All of them are warriors in the right case – that they think so. Some behavior are very disgusting n.g. Nick from USA. He uses so many curses when he eats dinner with his family and he is very proud of it. Sina from Norway is full of hate to the muslims and she puts them on the same level with Nazism despite she has an immigrant husband – very strange for me.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion these people have a emotional problems in real world. Introvert people who not have communication skills will react on the web. It is horrible. Our generation spend many times in virtual reality, because we not focus in real communication with real friends. Trolling is an attempt replace real interaction.
ReplyDeleteThis video makes me disgusted. I know that, we live in world of freedom of words, but we also remember about human rights- no matter who you do, no matter what you believe, only thing is important- Are you a good man? Be a good man is not only be a nationalist, we should remember about understand and respect other people.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion movie heroes have narrow of view point- they only focus about their feelings, thoughts and beliefs.
My boss is dutchman and my and colleague is ukrainians. At work, we to a large extent I work in English. I don't see any divides in our company of different nation, we always respect ourselves.
In the sum up, I think that we can show our feelings and thoughts, but we still remember about others, and we should respect other people.
I think that at least some of the people presented in video material don’t really understand the concept of freedom of speech and mutual respect.
ReplyDeleteI work in multicultural environment. Within my team there are people from Ukraine, Peru, Nigeria, India, Turkey, Germany, Romania, Hungary, Portugal, Spain, France and Italy. And I couldn’t imagine working with better team. I really mean it. Obviously that’s going it influence my point of view, but in general I find myself pretty tolerant.
This doesn’t mean that I’m fine with whatever is part other cultures. Like - I don’t support teenage marriages in Turkey because I find it universally not moral thing. But will it disturb my perception of Turkish colleagues at work? Not really. I got to know them, I know their beliefs, I respect them and I know that they don’t necessarily represent the same values that other people coming from the same nation.
That’s why I don’t support hate in the Internet. I strongly believe that it has its source in lack of proper education. People share very simple ideas, without truly understanding what’s behind them, or what are the arguments on the other side. People hate ideas they are not common with. Moreover – which is the worst thing in my opinion – they build their beliefs on other people’s opinions instead of getting know the facts themselves and then making their own judgement. That’s how common stupidity spreads. Obviously people in the Internet feel totally anonymous and they tend to present more extreme beliefs than they would share in real life.
If we mix it all up, here we have it – the most outrages comments in the Internet. Truly beautiful.
The short documentary is very interesting. It shows people who write comments on the internet that are far away of political correctness. Roger said that his thoughts are not mainstream. I hope that such beliefs will not be mainstream for a long time. However, he seems to be quite a rational guy... He has his strong personal opinions and sticks to them. He lives in a free country and can express his opinions, even if he says he understands Brevik's motivations. He stressed that he doesn't approve what Brevik did because it's not defensible and I think that the clue of a freedom of speech. We can have various, even extreme opinions, but we should never hurt anybody. Roger has strong beliefs and has no fear expressing them and although I don't agree with him, I actually respect him for that.
ReplyDeleteI like what Kjell said at the end of the video. After reading his harsh old comment about Muslims, he said that nowadays he would start arguing with such a comment's author. He apparently changed his opinions about Muslim because he now knows a Muslim in person. It shows that such "internet warriors" very often fight with things that they don't know. Again, I respect Kjell for that he was able to admit that he has changed his beliefs and doesn't agree with his old comments. Unlike Sina who still dislikes immigrant event through her partner pointed out that he is an immigrant. "No, you're my husband" - she replied. What a hypocrisy...
In my opinion trolls phenomena is symbol of our times. First we gain human rights, eg. freedom speech. You can say what you want, you should have such right in order some other can listen and can understand. But it doesn't mean your ideas other should believe to. You have right that others can listen but if they don't want, you cannot force them. And that's first misunderstanding.
ReplyDeleteSecond from my perspective is anonimity. Normally if you tell something, listeners can judge it. You are not telling offending ideas in front of listeners. Normally you are using only arguments. And internet changed that. You can tell whatever you want and you are hidden. People are feel safe and in their hiding places trying to offend others in order to win argumentation.
There should be blocked possibility to post anonymous comments in Internet.
Most of so called Internet Warriors are people with strong beliefs, but undereducated or feeling as they’ve been rejected by society. Some of them become bitter because they got screwed over too many times, by too many people, others just want to deny the reality they have to live in.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that those people does not accept any arguments that are against their way of thinking. They start being offensive whenever they see a comment by someone with a different point of view. I think, that as long as people stay open for new knowledge, every ideology can be discussed. We should not eradicate any, because that can easily lead us from one extreme to the other.
Some people have an ill understanding of free speach. Trolling is a huge problem that often leads to difficult times or even personal tragedies, especially when trolls come across people with a łów self-esteem. Even though I try to understand trolls I still despise their activity
ReplyDeleteI fully agree with Marta and also with Kamil. I think that this people have emotional problems. It's terrible that they believe that they are 100% right because if thay had the power to realize their words, the world would become a terrible place. However, I think that the enrichment is the knowledge that such people exist and that we can encounter such peoples in our lives.
ReplyDeleteEveryone has the freedom to write and express their own opinions. It is not forbidden. What it forbidden that we cannot harm oroffend other or other feelings. There are many such cases, but it is not worth to think about it. Some of people are thinking that when they write something on the internet thay are anonymus. Time has changed and it is no longer like that. Still it a lot of anger on internet and I hope that authorities will give people options to deal with it.
ReplyDeletePersonally I didn't like this movie. It presents too shallow view on this topic. Most people shown in this "document", are just frustrated and disappointed, so they use Internet as a place where they can be important. Trolls like them tend to write aggressive comments on big portals. I don't think that they're dangerous, well maybe for someone with weak psyche. But trolling is not only about arguing and making so called flame wars. It's also something what 4chan (and others) does, for example convincing some people that after newest update their iPhones can be charged remotely in microwave oven. There is also another trolling world - paid and organized. Companies, goverments pay for posting, commenting, etc. in Internet according to their actual needs, political situation.
ReplyDeleteI hate trolls and the only good thing is that they're rather easy to unmask.