Saturday, 3 January 2015

Week 6 (5-11.01.2015): All about Mormons

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Last term I obligated myself to write about different religions every term, so I want to keep my promise, but with a small change. In spite of speaking about well-known religions – Christianity, Islam – I would like to make an article about those, which are more enigmatic. So this year, instead of those two, mentioned earlier, I would like to write about Mormons and later about Scientology.
I’m sure that for many of you Mormonism is more like a cult rather than actual religion. Something strange and exotic, but in Utah, 60% of people claim themselves Mormons. Why? Let’s go through brief history of Mormonism.

“How it all began…”

Like in many religions, this movement was started by one man – a prophet and visionary - Joseph Smith. He stated that in 1823 an angel named Moroni (the child of Mormon) came, in a vision, while he was praying. In it, God’s sender revealed the location of a book made of golden plates along with the tools to decrypt them. After many years of search, Smith succeeded to find them and translate those into modern English in 1830 as “The Book of Mormon”.

Firstly, Mormons lived in Kirtland (Ohio), where they built a big temple called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (that is as well the official name of Mormonism; that’s also why Mormons are referred to as Latter-day Saints), later the centre of their religion was moved to Jackson Country (Missouri), but then, they were forced to move to Illinois, where they created a new city called Nauvoo.
Joseph Smith became the mayor, enacting many unique laws, both for the city and his church – in this case he used the title of President. One of which was polygamy, probably due to god-creating ideology of Mormons (it will be described later on in this article). Mormons set up very big families - it’s believed that Smith had around 30 wives. The whole community thought they found a nice place to prosper,  but once again they were thrown out from their homes. After Smith’s death (while he was held imprisoned for "immoral practices” and causing riots, he was brutally killed by an armed mob), his successor and student -  Brigham Young– decided to move Latter-day Saints’ religion to Utah, where soon he founded the city of Salt Lake City (the current capital of the state).

“Mormonism 101”

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has, as many other religions, very distinctive believes, which may be shocking to others. I picked three the most interesting (in my opinion of course):

I. Be a good Mormon and you will be a god!

It’s hard to imagine, but according to Mormons’ belief,  after your death, you can “exist” as a god and create other gods. How? First of all you’re a god’s child.
Literally. You’re a fruit of a divine intercourse. Mormons believe that long time ago a „council” of gods decided that they will procreate and send new-borns to different planets. The Earth’s god (who lives near a star called Kolob) is a child of that kind of relationship and we’re all his descendants sent to get into flesh and live among each other. If we fulfil some terms (described later on), we will become a god to our own planet.

II. There is no hell… there are only heavens.

Becoming a god is of course only possible in the “best” heaven, but it’s not a certainty. Even if you were a “good” Mormon, but you didn’t have a celestial marriage, you won’t become a god, but an angelic servant. The second heaven is for good non-Mormons and the third one is for bad. We will all be judged by our god, who is harsh, but fair.
A celestial marriage – I used this term and now I want to explain it. In the beginning Mormons practiced polygamy, but in 1890 they changed their point of view and started pro-family way of life. Actually to become a god in your afterlife you have to have a “celestial marriage” during your life time, but it’s not the only requirement.

III. Be good, pray, reproduce, pay… but you don’t need to be white anymore.

Latter-day Saints believes that it’s very important to live not only by the Bible, but by the Book of Mormons as well. They need be consistent in faith and try their best to understand and follow god’s will. Mormons are also obligated to give 10% of their earnings to church and most of them are sent on a mission or work for the church in other way. Boys for 2 years when they reach an age of 19 and girls for 18 months when they’re 21. The church decides how this service looks like or where one should go, but he/she must pay for it by him/herself. Usually they’re supposed to converse foreigners to Mormon’s faith, but sometimes they work in the church’s office, as a guide or in humanitarian missions. What’s about the part of being white? Believe it or not, but till 1978 black people weren’t allowed to become Mormons’ priests. Why? Because it was actually written in the Book of Mormons that black people are children of Kain (a biblical character who killed his brother because of jealousy). What’s more interesting, it was commonly believed that strong faith could make you white, on the other hand – being bad could make your pigment become darker. Mormons are also not supposed to drink tea, coffee, alcohol or smoke, but many religions have that kind of commandments.

There are so many more interesting facts about Mormonism, like “Baptism for the dead”, the whole idea of “the other Jesus” or special 'temple garment' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTz_NQqKA8), which may seem odd to you, but I must say for sure – they look like really happy people.

And if you don’t want to read this whole presentation… Just watch this movie:

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons

Some questions which can help you comment:
1. What are your thoughts about other religions? How much do you know about this topic?
2. Would you consider becoming a Mormon?
3. Did this presentation give you any new information? Did I inspire you to learn more about it (in my opinion it’s worth it!)

31 comments:

  1. People should believe in what they want if it's not like Aum Shinrikyō.
    If you don't want to harm other people believe in every nonsense you want.
    I'm not very religious person so I don't care in what people believe.
    I just don't judge. I'm not specialist in this field but my knowledge is pretty wide.
    Maybe becoming a Mormon would be funny but after they have only one wife not really.
    But who doesn't want to go to heaven?
    Great presentation I watched south park, always funny. And I can talk to mormons
    on the street or maybe now I don't need to.
    Test said I would be a great Mormon! Can't wait for Scientology presentation.
    They are also funny.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00312/8561598_Tom_Cruise_312359j.jpg

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    1. Cheers mate!

      You know, there are still multiple religions, where polygamy is accepted. I wrote about Buddhism, now Mormons and I must say that they are very "peaceful" religions, so I don't think that the situation you mentioned, with Aum Shinrikyō, will happen in case of those two.

      First vote for Scientology! (Scientology count: 1)

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    2. Haven't seen your presentation about Buddhism. Share a link here please.
      I will read it with pleasure.

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    3. Enjoy:

      http://konwersatorium3.blogspot.com/2014/04/week-4-buddhism.html

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  2. I already read few articles about mormons. From what I know, Utah is one of the safest state in USA, with a lot of young people. Will I became mormon? No, for sure. They used to have a lot of wives that could be nice :D But not anymore.
    They have adapted to american law. For me they are not causing any harm to society, so personally I don't care what are they doing in their community.
    America is a free country, you can do whatever you want.

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    1. They are often confused in Poland with Jehovah's Witnesses, just because the ways they're trying to convert people are very similar. So I'm assuming that if you're not bothered by Mormons, you aren't by Jehovah's Witnesses as well?

      And would you like to read similar presentation? About Scientology?

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  3. 1. What are your thoughts about other religions? How much do you know about this topic?

    In my opinion religion is just a personal thing and everyone should have right to choose it only based on him/herself believes. Of course I know something about this topic and sometimes I read about it but to be honest it is definitely ‘not my cup of tea‘.

    2. Would you consider becoming a Mormon?

    No

    3. Did this presentation give you any new information? Did I inspire you to learn more about it (in my opinion it’s worth it!)

    Yes, now I know much more about that topic but I do not feel inspired to look for more:)

    4. What was your score in that quiz: http://helloquizzy.okcupid.com/tests/the-what-kind-of-mormon-are-you-test

    This test has too much questions for me so I just skipped it. I hope you won’t have a grudge against me for that reason.

    5. Would you like to read a presentation about Scientology?

    As I mentioned it is not my cup of tea so I wouldn't like to read about them.

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    1. It's not a problem at all, I respect your opinion and I'm not pushing anyone to be interested in religious topics. So I'm dropping my "Scientology count" back to 0.

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  4. Great presentation! I didn't know a thing about Mormons, except that they exist. I heard a lot of good opinions about Salt Lake City, but until now i haven't had a slightest idea that it used to be an "independent" settlement founded practically as a home for Mormons. How weird is that? :) And look at SLC now - they even have a NBA team :)

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    1. Cheers!

      I'm glad that I was able to provide you with some new information about it. And you did as well, because I didn't know nothing about Utah Jazz, so it was a two way deal!

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  5. I'm not kinda religious person. I was christian but I left it because of some life aspects that helped me with decision I made. I got my own beliefs which aren't covered as I want them to be covered in any religion. I prefer to stay on my own religion/beliefs rather than pretending to believe in something I can't even imagine. It is mixture of Buddhism, Christianity and some psychological stuff. As long as you truly believe in something you could experience life in 100%!
    Being a Mormon is rather not something I would stay for but this presentation gave me some information I didn't even know before so I'm glad you wrote about it! We learn new things all the time anyway I don't have time for expanding my knowledge about them. Yeah, reading about Scientology might be interesting and could give some new, fresh points of view to our minds.

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    1. And "Scientology count" is going back to 1.Last term I wrote about Buddhism and I must agree, that in many ways, their way of seeing world is very interesting. Of course I read more and I found some less colorful and cheerful aspects, but I hope you're only taking the "best" parts of those religions.

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  7. Well it is quite strange but interesting religion. This whole becoming God thing and polygamy... I don't buy it! I find it a bit funny that black Mormons used to believe that strong faith could make them white.Amazing!

    However I think that people should live their lives as they want and and believe in what they want. This kind of freedom is one of the biggest achievements of western civilisation.

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    1. No, no, no! First of all black weren't allowed to join Mormons (it was thought that being black is some sort of punishment), but later on it was found racist, so they changed their law.

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  8. Thank you for this article. It is always nice to learn something new about the world or people. Also it might be handy knowledge in case I visit Utah someday :)

    About the questions:
    1. What are your thoughts about other religions? How much do you know about this topic?
    I used to read a bit about few religions, but never got into deep research about any of them. I have read bible when I was young, but with time I drifted away from church. For me the one common thing among religions, is that all of them struck me as a stories tailored for people to believe, with a carrot at the end of the way. They seem to be designed to spread among people, give them way to escape from real life. It’s not that I don’t respect religious people, I just think their way of looking at the world is not fully clear. One thing I remember well, it was a discussion with some kind of Hare Krishna cult guru. Probably it was someone like a cardinal in their church or something. It was strange experience, he was really believing In things that were illogical, while being fully sure that it is true. Some of their ideas sounded like something from fantasy books.
    2. Would you consider becoming a Mormon?
    Nope. Right now I don’t believe I will ever believe in religion stuff 
    3. Did this presentation give you any new information? Did I inspire you to learn more about it (in my opinion it’s worth it!)
    Yes ! There was a lot of new knowledge. Especially the part about their believes, stuff about creating gods etc. I always perceived them as a kind of radical conservative Christians. I wasn’t even aware that they have their own book with another story. While I consider the stuff they believe ridiculous (its opinion made from reading your article), their way of life seems ok, and if they dig it, it’s cool.
    5. Would you like to read a presentation about Scientology?
    Yes I would ! And I loved the south park episode about scientology. I’m also curious if they are really this crazy as many documents / shows try to present them. And if the last samurai is scientologist, there must be really something in it 

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    1. Of course I will add link o South Park episode, when I will write about Scientology (Scientology count: 2). Thank you for this comprehensive comment! Just to clear something out - The Book of Mormons is an addition to the Bible, something like Bible version 2.0. And as for your last answer - I read a little bit about scientology and yes, it's very "crazy" religion :)

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  9. I don't know what kind of Mormon I'm, becoue test want's My email addres, so I closed this site. The article is interesting, for Me good question for this people is "How They live in monogamy if Smith could had 30 wifes ", I couldn't live like that, I would have one wife not many :) but the test is boring for Me. Would you like to read a presentation about Scientology? Yes, but please, don't place any test for article :)

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    1. You didn't have to send them proper e-mail, but I'm glad you tried. (Scientology count: 3)

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  10. You have reached one goal – gave me some new information. I don’t want to express about religions and other things connected with it because I’m not a part of this. I can only say it’s really good presentation with clearly content and easy to understand form. I`m trying to write something more about this topic but I don’t have any idea…

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    1. I'm glad that you enjoyed it and I was able to provied you with new informations

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  11. I'm especially interested in old norse beliefs, 'cause they are just awesome and I love Scandinavian culture. If I had time and need for faith I may consider becoming a Mormon. The thought of becoming a god is very appealing! This article gave me plenty of new informations as I knew nothing about Mormons.The test told me that I'm an easy-going Mormon and yes, I'd read a presentation about Scientology because I always like to find out more about different beliefs even if I don't particularly respect or share them.

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    1. So I'm happy that you liked my presentation. Maybe do an article about norse religion? For sure I would enjoy reading presentation ike this! (Scientology count: 4)

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  12. This helped a lot of course. Thx! I didn't know about Mormons, but again as I commented on your Buddhism article, this was really interesting also :-) anyway i'd rather not become any other person than I am at this moment. Why ? Because this is how my parents raised me. I respect their choice of religion I guess they also respect my decisions but religion is nothing material. You can't change your mindset just like that after 25 years. But it is cool there some other religions. But when you try to change your religion at the age of 25 you will become a fanatic like every person who turned from Christianity to Islam. They are extremists yelling loudest to kill Jesus. This clearly shows what happens in the mind of a maniac adult in the name of the new God. Shit happens ! (Sorry)

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    1. I think it all depends how do you feel about your new religion. If you pick a new religion for your own personal purpouses, probably you will be recommending you choice to other, but you don't need to be a fanatic. I think it all depends on what kind of person you are as well. I'm glad you enjoyed both of my presentations and I hope you'll enjoy the next one as well.

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  13. The presentation is clear and nice. You provided a lot of information and additional links for those interested. I'm impresed with form of your presentation.
    I learned a lot from this article for sure! Until today I only connected Mormons with guys in suits and with badges with their names. But in oposition to Jehova's Witnesses they never tried to convert me.
    I'm not a religious person so it is hard for me to treat this as more than a curiosity. And frankly even after reading your article I have hard time to treat them as something more than a cult.

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  14. I don't know anything about Mormons and your presentation gave me a lot of information. And also a funny South Park episode, thanks for that too.
    You make all this information clear and affordable.

    My opinion about religion is that people are free to choose one or not to choose any. There are many religions and I think most of them are good if there don't have extreme rules and hatred.

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  15. 1. What are your thoughts about other religions? How much do you know about this topic?
    I don't know much about this topic. In high school I gave up going on religion lessons.
    2. Would you consider becoming a Mormon?
    Never.
    3. Did this presentation give you any new information? Did I inspire you to learn more about it (in my opinion it’s worth it!)
    I have never heard anything about Mormons before so yes, presentation gave me something. But to learn more? No, absolutely not.
    4. What was your score in that quiz:
    Non-Mormon
    5. Would you like to read a presentation about Scientology?
    Hmm... to be honest I don't thing so... Maybe something about Buddhism would be interesting.

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    1. I'm better than Santa Claus! Here! Enjoy!

      http://konwersatorium3.blogspot.com/2014/04/week-4-buddhism.html

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  16. Nothing much to say in this topic, of course everyone should be allowed to believe whatever he or she wants to believe in, until those believes disturb someone else or other people are forced to believe in the same thing.

    There are a few of these atypical churches in the US, also a lot of protestant christian churches are active there, for me they are all about the same :)

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