Monday, 4 November 2013

Week 4:Happiness and Money



What is happiness? How can it be obtained? Of course happiness is a subjective thing and means something different to different people. Many claim that it is something that you can’t put a monetary value on. Are they right? People commonly say: money can’t buy happiness. But have you ever wondered if it is true? Well, in the light of recently published studies the answer may be surprising. Those surveys reveal that money has a lot to do with happiness.

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Before I explain what is the exact conclusion of those studies I would like to tell you about another experiment. It was made by Benjamin Wallace – an American journalist and writer. Wallace wondered what was the reason for people to spend a great amount of money to buy things. He also speculated if all those goods asserted them a better and happier life. To find the answer for those issues he decided to try things considered to be the most expensive in the world: he ate Kobe beef and white truffles, stayed at the Ty Warner Suit in the Four Seasons Hotel at Manhattan, tasted Per Me Olive Oil, drunk Chateau Cheval Blanc and Kopi Luwak coffee, drove Bugatti Veyron and did lots of other things unavailable for ordinary people.
So what was his conclusion after trying those improperly pricy things? Could he find an answer if it was possible to buy happiness? Wallace did not give a positive answer. During his experiment he satirized spending money on something just because it was luxurious. He also made an interesting conclusion that we worship certain things according to our belief in its value. Of course Wallace's conclusion can be considered from the other side. We can analyse the journalist's experiment and ask some questions - what if Wallace did not enjoy spending this money just because he simply did not know where to do it. Once, a popular actress said: “Whoever said money can’t buy happiness simply didn’t know where to go shopping". Or maybe, to be more precise, Benjamin Wallace did not know how to spend money properly and that is why the effects of his experiment were unexpected.
It is commonly known that money has an effect on life satisfaction, especially because the more funds we have the more money we can spend to satisfy our basic needs. But how to spend money in the right way, so the spending brings happiness and benefits? Is there a proper way to do that? A professor of psychology Elisabeth Dunn and a professor of marketing Michael Norton in their book Happy Money: The Science of Smarter Spending try to convince us that the key to happiness is to spend our money right, in a smart way. But what is important, they reveal that the amount of money spent is not important: a good coffee in the morning bought in our favourite coffee house can be equal to diamond rings if you do it in a proper manner.
So how can we achieve happiness by using our money in an intelligent way? According to the authors, we have to try to implement a few principles:
1/ Buy experiences. Researchers show that anticipation of an event often increases a feeling of happiness more than the event itself. Avoiding buying material things can be a good idea because satisfaction with possessing them is temporary, and after a while they start to become trivial. On the contrary our brains process experiences all the time, so they are harder to forget and provide increasing benefits over time.
2/ Make it a special treat. Things that are used daily bring us less pleasure after time. It is a good idea not to repeat them every  day but once in a while, so they will be much more valuable and bring more positive feelings.
3/ Buy time. It is a good idea to hire somebody to help with everyday tasks just to obtain more leisure time. Free time gives an opportunity to do more interesting or favourite things. And the more time somebody has the more he appreciates the things he does.
4/ Pay now, consume later. There is nothing to explain on that subject! Paying for something right away brings more pleasure from buying it. Repaying a loan reduces the joy of purchase.
5/ Invest in others. Spending money on others makes it more fun than spending on ourselves. Need a proof? See a movie below, which presents interesting results of the experiment in which people had to spend money on themselves and on the others:


Despite the findings mentioned above many psychologists express profound skepticism concerning the statement that happiness can be bought. They claim, inter alia, that wealth diminishes our ability to enjoy things we bought. A famous American psychologist, Sonja Lyubomirsky – a professor at the University of California, who made ​​the subject of happiness her scientific domain, says that the more money a person spends the higher expectations of the happiness level money should bring, and that can be very harmful and deceiving. So which approach is correct? I guess each of us must answer that question.

Here is an article by Sonja Lyubomirsky concerning the topic of money and happiness and a film in which she explains what is happiness.


Additional questions:
How can you explain the word “happiness”? What does it mean to you?
In your opinion does paying for happiness have more advantages or disadvantages?
What are the ways to achieve a good relation between money and happiness level?

64 comments:

  1. Very interesting topic , I reckon it will bring a huge discussion.

    Happiness is tricky, isn't it ?
    You cannot measure or plan it (anybody could say: "I was happy 15 minutes yesterday and I hope to be happy for half an hour today ? :) )
    You cannot standardize it (happiness for one is completely different for the other) - although mass culture trying veeeeery hard to lead us to one general way to look on happiness.
    You cannot work for it (what you believe will make you happy when you reach it - turns out pointless when you actually got it)

    Can you buy it ? well...
    There is a theory that as humans we want : experiences (feelings, sensations...choose your own synonym).
    Following this theory:
    Its not a new phone that makes us happy - it is how we feel using it.
    Its not a new car that makes us happy - it is how we feel driving it.
    Its not this particular person that makes us happy - it is how we feel being next to her\him.

    So, coming back to subject, its not money which makes us happy but money helps us get experiences that makes us feel happy.
    And that is something I can fully agree with.

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    1. Daniel, you said something very interesting: “mass culture trying veeeeery hard to lead us to one general way to look on happiness”. Well, this is a mass culture's basic role: to try to standardize everything, even something that is commonly perceived as undefined - for example - happiness. But, what worries me the most (and I am wondering if it is your impression as well) is that the side effect of mass culture is that it is trying to convince us that happiness can be obtained really easy, that we just have to reach for it and grab it. Of course, in many cases, reality shows something quite opposite - achieving happiness demands hard work and lot of time. But many of us, having that misleading belief about happiness, are simply frustrated and full of anger.

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    2. Indeed, in mass culture (or pop culture if you wish) - there is a very primitive image of happiness being built.
      Expensive sport car, huge house on a sea side, 3 star Michelen restaurants, long leg skinny "super" model girl(s) ...etc.
      That's the typical image of happiness and success that being presented to teenagers.

      And I do agree that its all being presented as quite easy to get.
      Of course it is a huge disappointment for those kids when they eventually understand how much effort need to get those things.

      But I still believe main problem is something different. Its all that "paradise" drawn by mass culture is "guarantee" young absorber happiness. Like saying: "if you get those things - you must be happy!".
      And in most cases such theoretical kid will never get all those , but even if he\she gets what shock and disappointment it could be - happiness still not here.

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  2. There are some things that we can and can't do to make us happy most of which can benefit on financial contribution. I share opinion, that money spent wisely will have its positive effect on our life, therefore on level of our happiness. In my opinion the most wealthy is not the one with most number of zero numbers on the account, but the one that know what to do with the amount that he has to make a world the better place, and not only for himself.

    There is opinion that half of dollar from poor means more than 1k from rich. I think that's bulls product of metabolism.. this is just because they are more careful while spending it. At the end dollar is a dollar.

    Here is one interesting man, considering the subject:
    http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000067535/the-world-s-poorest-president

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    1. Teodor, thanks for the article about José Mujica. I am guessing that his action can be used as an example supporting the theory that money spent on others bring happiness. Otherwise what would be the purpose of doing that?

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  3. This topic is awesome, congratulation of idea 
    Answering on your questions will be very difficult, and finding an answer that could be good for all is just impossible. You may ask why, happiness is simple to determine – you are happy or not 
    I think that the best way of describing happiness was written by our famous national writer – Bolesław Prus, in his novel – “The Doll”. I had read that book long time ago, but I still remember one paragraph that was saying about some homeless man who was drinking water and a happiness on his face when he has filled thirst and from the other side was a main character “Wokulski” who had big fortune and was very unhappy because of unhappy love.
    You cannot buy happiness, especially one that cannot be bought like love, or death immunity etc…

    You can read "The Doll" in internet - link below:
    http://books.google.pl/books?id=MWcgHxTTzlcC&printsec=frontcover&hl=pl&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

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    1. Sławomir, thanks for the words of appreciation. Wokulski is a tragic hero. He was a wealthy man, but he could not conquer Izabela’s heart and that made him a very unhappy man. But I am wondering if his attitude was correct? Maybe he should try to derive happiness from his charity (as far as I remember he was helping poor people with the lowest society status and he was donating money to projects which were going to develop polish economy). The gratitude and respect he earned could be enough for many to bring real joy from life.

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    2. True but as you know, happiness cannot be bought – and the same is with love. I wonder did you had in your life some crush with a girl, and you thought that this the only one that can make you happy  Consider this when you think about Wokulski, I’m a very big fan of that tragic character. I think he is more romantic character then positivist. My last Polish teacher was arguing with me about this statement. If you fix yourself on something you sometimes cannot see any other option even if it is right at your doorstep.

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    4. You are right. Sometimes we are not able to see other options, so perhaps there was no alternative way for Wokulski to achieve happiness. Although, the book does not have a clear-cut end, so maybe there is some hope for the main character.

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  4. I must agree with Daniel that this is very absorbing topic and I also agree with Sławomir that we can’t buy feelings, true friends and his example was great and I’ve got one more example, which we often use in daily life : “A friend in need is a friend indeed”. And I think that is true one.

    In my opinion, people in our society put great emphasis on money, education and appearance. This is true. Majority of human beings believe that money would make them happier and more attractive in their lives, but does money really make them happy? I suppose, that thanks to money we can make our lives easier, but not happier. We can purchase clothes, cars etc things which make our lives more interesting and exciting I would say.

    On the other hand, let’s take ill people. Thanks for having a plenty of money we can pay medical expenses and so on, stuff which is extremely costly. That’s why the saying better to prevent than cure should we pursue. Start exercising!

    We can’t but TALENT of course. We are born with some talents. With money we can only improve it. Like experts say- to become an expert in one field, we need talent which is inherent.

    Something which you should consider:

    Money can buy a house, but not a home.
    Money can buy sex, but not love.
    Money can buy medicine, but not health.
    Money can buy position, but not respect.
    Money can buy a clock, but not time.

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    1. Łukasz, thanks for your opinion. You said that we can not buy feelings and friends and I suppose that you perceive those two things as happiness makers. Sławomir claims the same as you do. But please consider a type of situation - you take your wife for a trip around the world, because you know it is her dream, or maybe you buy an expensive (or not) gift for a good friend of yours just because you know he is always there to help, or you donate 500 polish zloty to an animal shelter. What is more you feel extremely happy from spending money for all of that. In this situation - can you say that happiness can be bought?

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    2. Taking your wife for a trip around the world (and spending money on it) will (probably) make you happy but I don't think that it is necessary to make you happy. Probably spending a nice weekend outside a city or even taking a walk with your wife after coming back from work would make you happy - it's not how much money you spend - it's about who are you doing it with:)

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  5. hmm... I see your point. So in this situation, we can say that happiness can be bought to some extent of course, but on the other hand, let's take your example with the animal shelter, workers of it should be happy and appreciate for having supporters -I mean people, as a society, not as producers of money. This should be their way of thinking. I mean, money is only fundamental stuff, which is needed to create animal shelters. Taking you example of a trip, I reckon, that the wife should be happy due to the fact, that she is with me on this trip :) I mean, that happiness in such situations don't really mean happiness but it is a form of excitation! Yes, that is what I wanted to say.

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    1. Well, you say that it is a form of excitation, and for me it is happiness :) So definitely there is a big problem with one general definition of happiness.

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    2. Yep, I agree with you. There is a top-down definition of happiness. For you happiness means sth different than for me and that is obvious and clear.

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  6. In my opinion happiness is always determined by the state of mind and geometry of thinking. It’s of curse hard to force yourself to be happy all the time, but it’s also so easy to complain and look at things from the dark perspective. Money unfortunately are the issue here cause it’s much easier to feel happy when you don’t have to worry about paying bills, loans or if you’ll have money to buy christmas presents for your kids.
    I would love to make an experiment and give people enough money to take the issue of their minds – so they could afford all the basic things like place to live and food, but also go on vacation or go out with friends from time to time... Would that increase the percentage of people that saying they are happy?

    Surveys conducted among people all over the world seam to confirm that it’s probably the case. Please take a look at the World Happiness Report 2012 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/world-happiness-report-2012_n_1408787.html#s838556 ). What it basically says that people claims to be happier in highly developed countries like Denmark, Finland, Norway, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Australia... That should give us all a clue...

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    1. I agree with you that money are the issue. Also I suspect that the result of your experiment would only confirm, that when basic needs are fulfilled and people can afford things they enjoy (like vacation or meeting with friends), the percentage of those claiming to be happy would increase.

      So, can we use this report as a proof that money is significant when it comes to happiness?

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    2. I would rate money importance as 6 in a scale form 1 to 10 ( it's my favorite way of describing importance or intensity ;)

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    3. And can you reveal what is the most important for you?

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    4. Kasia - I totally agree!

      Peter - Great topic, but I think that in the not so difficult subject - because it seems to me, of course I could be wrong, it's just a matter of whether you can fall in love with what you have. Maybe it's naive on my part and you think that it is going to cut corners, and it may sound to settle for just anything. Just enjoy what we have and respect it.

      I can say that I'm happy and it is very hard to say whether I would be more or less happy if my salary is less than or greater.

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    5. Iza, you are right. One of Sonja Lyubomirsky’s study shows that when we appreciate what we have, and when we are satisfied with it, we can find joy and gladness in every situation. That is why people, who are comfortable with expressing gratitude, perceive themselves as happy.

      But I am wondering whether there is a tendency to demonize the concept of buying happiness. The research that I mentioned in my presentation proves that buying happiness does not necessarily means something negative.

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    6. After yesterday's walk with my daughter, I have such a thought, that with each passing day our needs grow. When coming back yesterday from the kindergarten there were puddles on our way home, and Oli did not need anything else but be allowed to jump in each of these. She was really very happy that she was allowed. An I can understand that people want more, because I really would like to have some more – e.g. a big house, but would it make me more happy, would it be a better home?

      It was not my intention to demonize the use of your own money. Because I think most of us work to live, not live to work.

      I will never say, that the need to have more is wrong, and everyone should be happy with what they have. In such a situation no one would have anything. But for me these are two different things: one is to agree with what we have and accept the current situation, being happy with what we currently have and working to get something more it one has a dream. Second is to not getting frustrated by the fact that we cannot afford everything we would like to.

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    7. Iza, as always ;) I totally agree with you. It is not a good situation when we can't be happy just because we don't have something. It is really good and nice to have dreams but we should be happy with this what we already have. And my point is not to convince anyone to think "I don't want more, I'll stay with this I already have". I try to say that the way to achieve something can be also a source of happiness. And at the end the goal can be even more beautiful.

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    8. Iza, saying that people are demonizing happiness, I did not mean you personally. I just wanted to explain, why I chose this issue to discuss :)
      You wrote something very wise. I also think that the balance between goals we want to achieve to be happier and the appreciation for what we own in the present is very important thing.

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    9. Example from yesterday November in my company is time for sałaty increase, most of people receive increasing. What I could have observed yesterday, almost no one was happy that they received some more money, almost every one was disapointed that this increase was so small. When I see such situations the only thing I want to say very laud is - you could have received nothing.

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  7. For me the most important are family, my boyfriend, friends... :)
    ...job that I would like and by beloved computer with high speed internet access ;) – the sequence isn't accidental

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    1. Kasia, the last one is great! And I have to admit that it also makes me a very happy man! :)

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  8. Piotr,
    happiness - great topic! Congratulations.
    But I'm quite supprised about the change of the point - I think happiness is changed here to discussion about money. This is only one point of view - buying happiness and the question is it really possible.
    But is happiness always related to money? What about situation when we just feel happy?

    I had a difficult situation once when I was a student, I had a porblem to come back from the trip to Sapin because of theft. I had no money since my credit cards were in my bag. My flight ticket, key to my car (car was parked at the airport), cash, everything. I had just few hours to my flight and had to manage the situation. I said "I'll do everything to come back" but it was obvious there was a risk of failure. But the point of the story are people - I was lucky I had a good people, great friends with me. Finally I succeed - I came back this night home. But before I solved the situation my firends organized themsefls to help me - they collected all the money they had in case I had to stay there. One of them decided to stay with me, to help me and not leave me alone. This trip cost me a lot of money - those days I was a student in Denmark with a small student found. I had to come back Poland to recover my documents, credit cards, etc. My trip to Spain supposed to cost 300 PLN but finally I paid 3300 PLN for everything. It was a really big amount of money. But when I came back to Demnark I just... felt happy. Of course not because of spent money. Because of people I had around me. It was almost 4 years ago, now we are scattered all over the world but we are still friends and we know we can have a nice time together, have fun but also if needed - rely on each other.

    That is what makes me happy. People, not money. Money is only a helpful tool. Important but not the core. At least sometimes, since as Marylin Monroe said: "Money doesn't bring happiness, only shopping does." ;)

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    1. Agnieszka, thanks for your opinion. The main idea of my topic actually was the relation between money and happiness. I am aware, that this is just one point of view, but for me the most interesting and I wanted to know what the others think about it. This is why we discuss here mainly about influence of money on somebody's feel of joy :)
      Your story about the trip to Spain shows, that you have wonderful friends indeed. Considering the situation you described, there is no point in denying that people, not money, bring a real happiness.

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    2. Ok, so now everything is clear and I suppose I should prepare my wish list of things which could probably make me happy ;)
      Speaking more seriously - as I said, money can be a useful tool. And I will never try to convince anyone to not make money/buying things. Even if it does not make us really happy, it definitely improves mood :)

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  9. You moved on subject, we think almost everyday I suppose. What we do is just seeking or taking care of existing happiness.
    For me happiness is like a state of mind, which available to everyone unless we’re aware of it and have predispositions to achieve it.
    However, achieving happy life may not be as simple as it turns out.
    Everyday people are exposed to views how rich people spend time, how they live, how much money they got etc. most of these people see this as of lack in their happiness, that they won’t be able to get similar life. But there are also people who doesn’t care about money, so we could assume that kind of person is able to be happy easier but there is no such thing.
    Happiness is complicated stuff, on which we have to focus and realize what makes us happy.
    It is important to get pleasure from basic things, setting up goals to achieve and be optimistic about life.

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    1. Volkan, you said that we are exposed to how rich people spend money, so maybe that is why many of us perceive happiness as something permanently associated with money. I think that this is an influence of an widespread opinion (more and more popular because of the mass media) according to which the level of consumption is an indicator of a life quality. This point of view dominates especially among young people and personally I am terrified with the fact that more and more of teenagers build their self - perception and life satisfaction on material goods. They forget that being happy is not equal to spending money. Nowadays young people do not understand that satisfaction can be associated or reached with the simplest things. What if they never attain financial success? Will they be unhappy for the rest of their lives?

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    2. I'm totally agree with you. Unfortunately, like you said, the media/tv showes/ commercials, all that influence people and esspecially young. I think that everybody had some experience related to this subject, seeing how people behave and what expects from life. I hope that it will change, if not some of people will be unhappy for the rest of their life Peter, as you said.

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  10. I realize now that it’s better to comment at the beginning of the week, because now, most of the things have already been said. I won’t repeat the same quotes: “It’s good to have money, but it’s not the most important thing” – we all know that. Usually I’m happy after my football practice or a long jog – sure I’m exhausted, but I feel joy of that fatigue, the same feeling I get when I can take a very long bath with interesting book or when I go to bed after long, stressful week with and I don’t have to get up early the following day. For me money is not to bring happiness, but to ease our lives (I’ve never got the idea of cheering up with shopping).

    Benjamin Wallace told about 12 the most expensive things you can buy.
    I would go for Kobe and white truffles, because food is that luxury, I can spend more money on(“you are what you eat”). Hi-tech toilet is also an interesting idea for a geek like me, but let’s be serious -6,000$ for a toilet? The same goes with bed – I own a very big one with comfortable mattress and it was worth it, but I don’t think I would spend 65,000$ on that presented. Other pleasures didn’t interested me – where would you drive that expensive car? On our bumpy roads? I’m not a coffee- and wine-drinker and that apartment… Waste of money in my opinion.

    And according to Michael Norton presentation… There is a global campaign called “Make homeless smile”. It was started by this movie:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGtaXt5f1w

    And went further… Friend of mine also organized the same thing in Poland

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAdD0ehqR8

    It was a big success, so people in other cites did the same:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqJB2ouJ-nM

    At the end some more quotes about money and happiness:
    “They say money doesn’t bring happiness…. I say neither does being broke…”
    “Money can’t buy happiness, but I’d cheer up much faster sipping a margarita on the beach outside of my oceanfront mansion.”
    “I know perfectly well that money doesn’t buy happiness; but one must admit that it would be more comfortable to cry in a Cadillac than on a bicycle”
    “Money does not buy happiness, but it pays my internet, which is almost the same thing”
    “Money doesn’t bring you happiness. That’s why I just went shopping to get rid of it all”

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    1. Banana, water, clean shirt - something so simple made people smile. I admire these young people for their desire to do the right thing. And for prof that helping others cost less than we think. Nonetheless while watching those videos, from time to time I go an impression that not all of the homeless people were as happy or grateful as they should be for disinterested help. But I guess that judging them is inappropriate because everyone shows appreciation in his own way.

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  11. From my point of view, happiness is associated with the activities or mindsets which give me joy and satisfaction. And when the money factor is coming in, it all depends on one's personality and expectations from life and his/herself. Those activities (hobbies, unique experiences) are more or less dependent on money which you have to spend to realize and enjoy them. So we can generalize that money brings happiness to many - but in a indirect way. I perceive those activities as a short term happiness.

    The mindset of 'being happy' though, is a kind of a long term happiness state. And it's difficult to be 'just happy' no matter the material state, achievable by all social classes but that's out of this discussion scope, I guess :)

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  12. I love the topic and provided tips for buying happiness. As for the questions - happiness for me is just feeling glad with whatever is around you, your life in general. It's not a momentary thing, rather - something that is underlying and modifies your emotions i. e. happy person will have a bad day because of whatever happened at work/school/private life, but after a moment of sadness the person will get back to more positive state. And if I think of it - I don't believe money has to do that much with general happiness.

    As I said, the concept of happiness is for me something as an underlying feeling - I would even say that this is something opposite to depression. And the same as with depression - you can't control it that much. It's something that just happens to you and you can fight back (or embrace it in case of happiness), give yourself as much positive moments as possible, but after all it's just a matter of brain chemistry. The question is - can we really affect that famous "brain chemistry"?

    Some say we can, some say we can't. The general direction is to try affect is as much as possible, to find a cure to depression and maybe later - the prescription for happiness. There is an interesting film from TEDx, where clinical researcher Steve Ilardi speaks about hacks for the "broken" brain chemistry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bnniNxqB4w

    Not to spoil the film, but maybe money isn't going to buy you happiness, but exercise will?

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    1. An information about how exercises boost our brain with endorphines can be found almost everywhere. Endorphin is a happiness hormone and that is why phisical activity has a big influence on our mood. Steve Ilardi suggests that excercising reguralry works better than drugs in healing various diseases, including clinical depression. One of Sonja Lyubomirsky's study shows that happy people stay physically active. So answering your question: I guss there is such possibility :).

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  13. I admit right James - commenting on the end of the week hard to bring something new to the subject. Subject, however, I think it is impossible to exhaust. Apart character Wokulski I can mention about Ebenezer Scrooge from Christmas Carol. His idea of happiness was limited to the accumulation of wealth, and yet it has never been a happy man. Surrounded by the splendor and valuables was lonely and bitter. Only when he was hit by three ghosts he completely changed. He noted that it was the giving of oneself to others is the true happiness. The results presented by Michael Norton is a contemporary confirmation of this fact.

    The definitions of happiness are as much as the characters of people. For some, money is the most important goal in life, without which they aren’t able to achieve happiness. For others happiness is love and family. Often in the pursuit of money people neglect their families, not devoting enough time for them. Time that can’t buy at any price. Money? Money is something acquired. Once we have them and sometimes not. The family is one. When someone close to you go away, can never to return.

    Money is necessary to meet the basic needs rather than to achieve happiness. Nowadays looking at the pyramid of Maslow's hard to imagine ensuring physiological needs (food) or security (shelter) without adequate capital. According to the hierarchy above them we can see the needs of love and belongingness and also self-esteem, which can’t be valued. In my opinion they are the source of happiness.

    http://crazysmartcluelessdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/maslows-hierarchy-of-needs.jpg

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  14. Imagine you can choose one of two futures for yourself. In one your chances of realising your dreams, make a fortune and grow old in great health are rather slim. In the other you could be whoever you want, you'll never be sad and all your dreams will come true - in short: you'll be permanently happy. What's the catch? The first life would be in real world, the second - entirely within the Experience Machine (very sophisticated virtual reality device) and all your experiences will be designed to make you happier and more satisfied. (I took this thought experiment from The Pig That Wants to be Eaten by Julian Baggini.)

    I guess most of us would be rather reluctant to disconnect from reality for eternal happiness. But why? What the "happy world" is lacking? The asnwer is simple: authenticity. And this is, I think, the one of the crucial components in discussions involving both happiness and money.

    This brings me to my try to explain the complicated relation between happiness and money.

    I think money doesn't spoil the happiness by simply being involved in any given activity. The problem emerges when the very act of paying for something makes you perceive that thing as less authentic. For example, paying for a flight ticket to Africa in order to cross through the desert by your own (if that's your dream) doesn't makes you experience the adventure as less authentic. But if you buy all-inclusive trip in travel agency you'll know that everything is prepared, fake in some way. The overall satisfaction will be diminished.

    So I would say that using money to get rid of obstacles from the path to some desirable experience will lead to happiness. But trying to actually buy an experience isn't necessarily a good idea.

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  15. I don't know if money can give you happiness. I suspect it wildly depends on the person. I know some people were completely destroyed by having too much money, but other rich people seem completely happy. If I had to guess I would say people using their money to change the world for the better, are the happiest among wealthy folks. If I were Bill Gates it would most definitely give me a huge pleasure to know I had a big part in almost eradicating malaria.

    While I don't know if having big money is good for your happiness, I'm fairly certain having to much focus on chasing money is really bad. It's far better to live fully, collecting live experiences, than to participate in the "rat race". Especially people that exchanged their ideals for money, loosing in the process their moral compass, must be the most miserable of all. It must be a horrible feeling deep inside, even if on the surface they have everything needed to be perfectly happy. I really feel for them.

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  16. For me happiness is everything that I've achieved and recieved,
    because I know it comes from my hard work or good relationships with
    other people. Paying for it is only good when it doesn't make you
    money dependent. I think there is no relationship between money and happines
    as you will never have 'enough' money, but when you realize it you will
    surely have 'enough' happiness

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  17. In the movie "Forrest Gump" there is an interesting quote : "there's only so much fortune a man really needs and the rest is just for showing off". There is so much true in this sentence. We don't really need much money, the amounts we gain just show off our social status (and not even in every case!). Money isn't a good measurement of happiness for me, but we need some of them to live without stress. So the need for money to have a peaceful life can be named with some kind of happiness but it is not ONLY money. The amounts of cash that are higher than what we really need are very sneaky. Either we spend it on the things that will be good for us for a longer time (interests, other people, help for other, courses, learning etc.) or we just throw it away buying things that only show how "rich" we are and they would be a monument for our selfishness and pride. Well this topic is very complicated, much much more than I wrote, if I can say that I wrote nearly something about it, but for me happiness is something more than money, it is not visible but sometimes worth spending money for and on the other hand, with no need for spending them. Mysterious :)

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  18. "Money can't buy happiness but I would rather cry in Porsche." I think that money is equally important as health. It can upgrade our lives, make it more interesting, we can visit many beautiful places where not every person is able to go. Many marriages broke up because of financial problems, many people suffer from hunger, no place to live, diseases, where money is a cure. I would rather have too much money that too little.

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  19. For me, a happiness is an ability to realize your desires and dreams, and getting satisfaction in the process. You don't need to be extremely wealthy to do that, you just have to choose a fitting hobby. Poor people crying for not being able to realize their expensive hobby are quite funny; if you can't afford it, why would you choose it? And if you do, do you lack dedication to earn enough money to catch your dreams? To be a happy dreamer you need to be a realist just a little bit. Have one or two big plans for the future that CAN be realised and consequently work for it. That's the happiness, not whining about inability to get something you simply won't have.

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  20. For me happiness has some meanings. It is mainly connected with people who I love and who are very important for me – feelings, emotions, laugh. Does money give fortune? This question is so difficult to answer. Why? Because without money we can create everything we want but… it is limited. Travelling with friends or even with my family brings me happiness. Money is important when you would like to travel. Sightseeing is so expensive – flight, tickets, accommodation for the night, full board – it cost sometimes too much than we expected. But… there is also one way which provides you good journey without costs – hitchhiking. I like also giving people small presents. It makes me more happiness than when I get something. When I see a smile lit up my friend’s face. Paying for happiness has for me more advantages because it regards not only us but also people who we love. Achieving a good relation between money and happiness level depends on personal needs. But the best way is to find the balance.

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  21. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it's Schopenhauer who defined happiness as the sense of fulfilment obtained from completing one need of ours before we feel another need. I think that would be the most accurate description: happiness as contentment or bliss in one's current situation. Is that something money can buy? Temporarily, for sure. Before you notice some kind of emptiness seeping in.
    I think paying for happiness will always be inconvenient simply because you're paying for it. Having too high of a standard can hurt you in the future because you'll be looking for more daring ways to achieve happiness, and those just start to run out.
    I think that achieving a healthy ratio between money and happiness is just being possibly satisfied with what you have, or just the little things. Being warm in bed, a good cup of tea or some nice music are things that you can appreciate at any financial level. I think that by learning to appreciate the small aspects of our life, we gain perspective. Money should be used to achieve things that are out of our reach normally, such as trips or treatments. When we combine those 2 aspects, we will be moderately satisfied when only occasionally spending money.

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  23. Well, happines is actually about hormones I guess. I can't really tell what happines is, but it is really important part of life and mental health. One does not simply describe word 'happines'. Good realtions between happines and money? Only one thing comes to my mind - find a job in which you can do what you like. It will make you happy and give you money and you will be have less worries what will make you happy. Almost something like perpetum mobile of happines!

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  24. Happiness doesn't depend on money. For me it is the feeling of love to the moment. You just have to find this feeling inside of you, sometimes I can do it, I catch the moment, just one moment of normal grey day and i become happy. Know that you are happy and you will, how money can direct our feelings, only you can do it and people around.

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  25. Very good topic! It is very difficult to define what is happiness. For me happiness is that such a state when we feel good, anything else we need not feel fulfilled, but it is a very subjective feeling, because everyone has a different definition of happiness. Some people believe that happiness is money, others career, and still others help the needy. Some people believe that happiness can be bought. Is that true? I do not know. I think that buying happiness has more disadvantages, because not everything can be bought and this addiction, because then without a large amount of money these people are not able to live normally and all "friends" suddenly disappear. How to keep the balance between happiness and money? It's quite difficult. According to me the most important is not to forget that there are more important things in life than money, such as friendship, health, love or family.

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  26. Everyone have got another definition of happiness. For me it's family, love, friends, health and knowledge. I want to have big, lovely family and good job with good salary.
    For another person happiness are money, good fun, food or journeys.
    Let's say we have got millions of pathes to gain happiness.
    So in some ways we really can pay for being happy - like buy the journey of our life, fulfill our dreams, get married (it's not cheap!), buy new house etc. But every time we should know where is a boarder. We can't make our happiness on other people misfortune. And when you can do this, you can say that you're happy person :)

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  27. For me happiness is about living my life. Not caring to much about what people says and what they expect because I should be most important person for me. Of course respect for everybody is important and if somebody is achieving happiness by hurting others it’s another story.
    Paying for happiness isn’t anything bad. We usually need to pay for things which makes us happy: music, books, movies, sport. You can’t buy happiness, but you often need some money to buy things which makes you happy and satisfied what leads to happiness.

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  28. Happiness is satisfaction with everything that meets us and what surrounds us. For me, happiness is a sense of peace, freedom and fulfillment. When I know that my life is organized and that my people are healthy and safe. When it comes to paying for happiness, it depends what we mean. Everything we do and does not hurt the other person can be considered good, so when it gives us happiness then why not pay for it. Unfortunately, it is very easy to lose the boundary between real happiness and the purchased one, because as you can say, you can not buy everything, for example the most important is the love for a man and you can not buy it.

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  29. With this topic I associate one book “Bogaty albo biedny”, which I’ve read last summer. Ahh okay... to be honest - it was just an audio book. This book explains the difference between rich and poor people. They differ only in the way of thinking about money. If someone thinks that money isn’t important in life, it’s obvious that he won’t have it. Poor people so often think, that they’re better than the rich, because they’re nice and don’t cheat. It's nonsense. They are just poor... It’s often said that money isn’t as important as love. It doesn’t make sense. This comparison is as stupid as thinking what is more important – your hand or your leg.

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  30. For me happiness means spending time with people that I love, happiness is visiting beautiful places, helping people and doing passionate things who are giving me a satisfaction. I think buying happiness have got more disadvantages. Of course you can buy a dream trip, pet or other stuff. But you can’t by people, friendship and love. And without them you’ll never be truly happy. It’s important to remember that you can’t buy someone feelings. And that money are not a thing that will be always with you. It’s better to do something y yourself than buying it.

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  31. Happiness is realy difficult to explain and every person feels it differently. From definicion is an emotion caused by experiences assessed by the subject as positive. For me it is a very big thing and it conects aspecially with my family and my boyfriend they are everything for me with them I am happy so I don't need any money to have happiness. I agree with the statemant " Money is not the key to happiness But if you have enough money, you can have a key made." But richness don't give us felicity it only give us money that we can share with the loved ones and give them presents and make them happy. I personally think that if somebody wants to pay for happiness and money is all he care he will never achive happiness. There is no reception for a good relation between money and happiness every man has to find his own golden mean and always remember that money are not everything.

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  32. I believe that there is a lot of ways to be happy. For some people it is a social activity, for others - participation in a church life or establishment of their own company. I believe that we are too focused on work. Travelling, helping others, learning new things - it can make us happy. The best thing is when our job is connected with our interests and work makes us happy. Unfortunately, this situation is rather seldom. We shouldn't "buy our happiness", we should create it!

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  33. To me happiness is many things. Being health and safe but also having my best friends and family near me. Also doing things that make me happy. I guess that also having some achievements makes me happy. But I think everybody have a different definition of happiness.

    Paying for happiness have as much flaws ad benefits. On one side having money means that you can have a fancy life and travel for example (and that's really cool). But on the other hand no matter how many things you will own if you're not happy with yourself you won't be happy owning those things anyway.

    I guess that money and happiness don't have a relation. Of course if you have money you can live owning more things, eating expensive food, travel ect. But having all this is not making you happy it just makes you own it. Like i said before you won't be happy with only things you have. You can be happy only if you will love yourself.

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  34. Happiness is for me ability to decide about my life. My happiness equal to my independence, my own choices, time which I spend with my famili and close friends and my personally advance. I don;t think that money can give my true happiness. Of course, they can help me meet a target, but usually it is not simple way for it. I keep faith that in life really important is something difference than current aclaim and career. :)

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  35. Call me a materialist if you want - I do not agree with the statement that money can't buy happiness. Of course I don't mean that I would be happier if I could afford some luxorious goods. By buying happiness I mean buying the sense of safety, not being worried about tomorrow. I agree with the tips given in the presentation that when you have money you should invest it or use it as a treat but I also agree with the statement that it's better to cry in a Porsche than on a bike. Feelings, love, family, friends- they are very important, they give you reasons to live. But I wouldn't say that money doesn't count. I would rather say it is the most important factor. And I'm not saying about being filthy rich. I'm saying about money that will make you able to build a house, provide your family with food and medication and also some joy and pleasure. So claiming that money can't buy happiness is a relative concept depending on what people take as feeling of happiness. But I am rather a realist with a tendency to see everything darkly coloured. So ifg someone tells me that money can't buy happiness I would recommend them to come down to earth and stop being so high-minded.

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  36. I do not agree about the main assumption of this article. My definition of happiness is compeletely different than those displayed in the text. Being happy is related with deep connections with other people which you can't purchase in any way. Money can make life easier, that's the fact. But money will never get you happy human in that fully way.

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  37. I believe happiness is a state of mind, when we feel "full". I am an ambitious person, so I do not have time for some things such as relationships... But I am also a romantic soul, so I am dreaming of a beautiful romance from books or movies. I do not know if I could ever bring together my dreams, but I hope so. I believe that paying for happiness is not a good solution, BUT buying unnecessary things really helps when I am sad or angry. It is not good, because I need to earn a lot of money to buy things (attractive for me) or I will be broke... I do not like the second option...

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